December 14, 2011
[We had some idea about what was happening in Europe.] Yeah, to some extent, but— In fact, I had even heard one of Hitler’s speeches, in German, they put on the radio. But it didn’t make that much impression. Yeah, Roosevelt said, “We’re not going to war,” so we believe him. But the war really didn’t affect us. We were just coming out of the Depression. I think the war was responsible because all of our [heavy industry]—we were part of the buildup there, all of the heavy machinery. And Allis Chalmers, A. O. Smith, all these big companies were really producing for England. So we knew that was going on, but the war was a long way away. There was no television. Whatever you knew, you got from the newspaper or radio. And the war made some impression on us, but not that much. It did later on.
December of ’41, that changed. I was in college by that time. University of Wisconsin in Madison. I was in chemical engineering, if you can imagine. . . . My dad said to me, “What do you think you’d like to take?” I said, “I don’t know.” So he said, “You know, engineering’s a pretty good field.” And I’d had a lot of math and science in high school, but—so I said, “Well, that sounds good to me.” So I started out twenty-one credits as a freshman. And it was—I—it was way over my head. But now the war is starting